well first of all I'd rather buy a refurbished one, because it's way cheaper and always comes with at least 90 day warranties, so please don't talk me out of buying a brand new one cuz I'm just gonna get tired of it in a couple of years, and most of the time refurbished is reliable. I've checked so many retailers like circuit city and gamestop and microcenter. and I can't use ebay cuz im under 18 and my parents are total ass holes about hackers and their credit card numbers. The cheapest refurbished premium xbox bundle I have found so far is at microcenter coming in at $169.99 with the 20GB hard drive, wirless controllers, the console, wireless headset, and HDMI cables. In Illinois that comes up to about $193 with the tax if I pick it up at their store. I've checked so many other websites and stores. Are there any other ways that I could get a cheaper price, maybe by buying the parts separate like buy a refurbished console and a refurbished hard drive/controller/cables? but it would be nice if I could just get them all in a bundle cheaper than $170, but if getting them separated for way cheaper or at least $20 that'll still be nice too. thanks

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